WATCH: Economist Breaks Down Trump Tariffs, Talks Recession

Former chief economist for President Donald Trump’s first administration, Vance Ginn, joined “The Joe Pags Show” in early May to discuss tariffs, recession, and something about the mass killing of chickens.

Ginn was quick to clarify that the American economy is not in a recession (at the time of writing), concurring with Pags that the Biden administration only narrowly avoided going into a mass economic downturn using “artificial” measures.

“I think the economy was propped up by fiscal and monetary policy to make things look good. Like, it put a lot of money in the economy. What do we get? We got a lot of inflation. We got a lot of people who dropped out of the labor force,” Ginn continued, noting the continued decline in labor force participation since the previous administration. Even though America maybe didn’t go into a recession publicly, to the people living outside of the upper echelons, it “felt like a recession.”

Killing Chickens On Purpose?

Pags then turned the conversation to everyone’s favorite backyard buddies: chickens. Pags stated that Dir. of the National Economic Council Kevin Hassett said recently that “he wouldn’t be surprised if Biden killed 140 million chickens on purpose and then, of course, the egg prices soared.”

The purpose for this was to hand Trump a food and grocery-price crisis. “Is there anything to that do you think, Vance?” Pags asked. (MORE NEWS: ‘Will Be Punished’: Consequences Arrive Early For Canadian Voters After Doubling Down On Wokeism)

“Anything is possible,” Ginn replied, but noted there was also a bird flu epidemic during that same time period, so there was likely a push by the CDC to kill off chickens.